In this, the second interview of a two-part series, Insightful Path Founder, James Samana, interviews his friend and Senior Water Advisor, Michael Wrathall.

A jam-packed 11 minutes of deep insights on how to build collaborative relationships in order to get 'Good policy' developed.

With candour, humour, and passion, the conversations covers:

• common ground between the public service and the Minister’s Office;

• Michael’s path and passion for his work;

• a challenge to build your own definition of what is ‘newsworthy’;

• a recognition of the Good that is happening in the APS and across Government;

• the reality and benefit of incremental progress for policy development;

• avaluable concept and case study for policy development;

• an insightful resource on community consultation; and

• the importance of genuine consultation to build sustainable and effective policies

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